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Amen Casey Chaos
Conducted By: Corey Evans

Four ragged chairs, a musty smelling room, and a dim lightbulb are all that accompany the chaotic rock-n-roll lifestyle for Amen villain Casey Chaos. A few hours out from show time and just finishing up a photo shoot and a local Baltimore bowling alley, Casey is attaching an ankle brace and mending his wounds from the brutal live show of nights past and sits down with me to talk about touring with the Brides, the new band, and musicians being held responsible.

Been four days into the tour, how has it been going so far with the Brides?

Brides are cool, I mean Nikki Sixx, Traci, really a known band. It’s nice to be able to play in front of an entirely different audience for us. To play in front of different people, so its cool.

Are you connecting with them on this level... the Motley Crue fans from the 80's, not really the punk thing...

Yeah, it’s a different audience. It seems like some people get it. That’ s why everything is so great. I’m actually surprised.

What has been up with bringing Acey Slade in?

Our guitar player has his wisdom teeth impacted. So we leave him in England. He had six months of impacted wisdom teeth while we were working, overdosed in Amsterdam, than fucking had blood poisoning when we were in the UK. So, he had to get his teeth, had to get all these super antibiotics, and get his teeth figured out. He just needs to get his life figured out. He needs to get some tender loving care.

He has no luck...

Yeah it’s the Amen lifestyle. [laughter]

So what are you guys looking at for the future after the Brides tour, looking to tour with anybody?

We go to Japan, then we do Summer Sonic, the festival over there. Then probably I’d imagine like. Might do the System [Of A Down] tour. The future always seems to be weird we’ll see what happens. [laughter].

How have you medically been holding up [on tour]? I know you have that condition...

I have and lung disorder. But that’s how it is, and how its always going to be.

What kind of pre-show ritual do you go through to psyche yourself up?

Your looking at it! [laughter]

Sitting in a dingy dressing room

Yeah, its very very luxurious.

How has the line up change been? Has it been a smooth transition from "We Have Come For Your Parents" until now? Besides that whole dark period [laughter]

It’s been really weird to be honest with you, because its like any relationship you have with a girl or whatever, whatever kind you have, its amplified by half when your in a band. So a little weird. The hardest member to find was someone to replace on drums because I’m so hard on drummers. It took me long enough so. But yeah, its been really.

You recorded 73 demos for the new album, are you going to keep them strictly b-sides, or plan to follow up with a new album quickly?

I think we are going to post the demos as free downloadable on the website, put some of them as b-sides. Hopefully someone will figure out what to do with them. They can do whatever with they want.

Read the Revolver interview the other day where you talked about seeing Nirvana in front of 20 people and Black Flag in front of 25, do you find it sort of a humbling experience looking back seeing how [especially] Nirvana, they have become iconic over time?

Yeah, yeah. Its always that way. For me at least. Play a more intimate crowd.

Have you had an alright ride on Columbia so far, going from major label to major label...

Yeah, its good. You mean, you know, we’ve been lucky. We’ve been really lucky you know, because people have believed in our band. Our parents and stuff. And all the people that work at Columbia are cool.

Still have all that major label red tape to go through...

Yes! It is still that corporate stuff to go through. We were able to do what we want and make it exactly the way we want which made it cool.

How was it working with someone else other than Ross Robinson, he was with you for at least the first two albums...

Well Ross was one of my best friends of mine. He always said I didn’t need it. He produced the first record, the second Parents record I did everything. He basically came in and tracked the vocals. He helped me, because I can’t judge when I sing. When I play guitar, play bass, whatever. I can tell what I can do. He basically came in and taught vocals. He is more like another set of ears. And doing it this way it was different because it was a year, years worth of work really, and it was so unorthodox the way I did it. And it was a totally different experience. Daron is cool to work with, he is definitely a visionary type of dude. Really really integrity based. Doesn’t bullshit. If I sound like shit, he’ll say it.

How has the perspective of the band over time? [Amen] formed in 1994, 9-11 hadn’t happened, the war in Iraq hadn’t happened...

I think it has become more personal because I’ve been drawn to people who were fans of the band before they were in the band. The experience with the political climate and the people it is really the same experience for me. I think the people that are in the band, it makes more sense. The political climate and everything that happened, makes more sense, hence some of the artwork that we are using. I think it worked out.

Musically how has that perspective also changed, the album is more singer friendly.

That was the thing Daron really wanted. He said, “You know you really shoot yourself in the foot as a songwriter, you need to really make these songs shine.” That was something we never did in the past. That was something we would intentionally not to. The focus was to make it a really really hard listen. To make it as anti-commercial, and as anti-everything as possible. I think this one definitely has more songs on it, at times definitely more brutal, and has more songs. The best of both words really...

The album is a few weeks out, can you sum it up for what people can expect from it? Any calls from Roman Polanski or Fred Astaire?

[laughter] I think people will be digging it. If they like what we’ve done as band I think they will be happy with it. The album came out overseas first and the reaction has been positive.

Things have always been better overseas for you...

[laughter] Yeah that’s true. I think that people will hopefully get a chance to hear it and maybe judge it for themselves. I think there is a lot of different shit out there going on, and politics and stuff, and the political climate.

More timely than ever...

Yeah, and I think its been more in respect in the sense of music. There is so many people creating music for the wrong reason. As far as listeners go, I think people now are hearing it now more than they did a few years ago. I think people now are looking for that something that is more real, I think music and people that create it should be held responsible.

So think it will be a good year for Amen then...

You never know, but I think it will be a bad year for anyone who creates shit for the wrong reasons. As is the case with Michael Jackson. [laughter]

Yeah, he’s not having a good time.

[laughter] It could be worse. [laughter]

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